Не Украина и не Русь, боюсь, Донбасс, тебя, боюсь… ТГ-канал о реальной жизни на задворках цивилизации. Знаем больше и делимся с теми, кто готов знать правду
Created
11 January 2019 — measured — cross-checked against a third-party dataset (ext.tg_channel)
Politics & activism — a classification, not a measurement. An on-box language model (Qwen3.6-35B-A3B-UD-Q6_K_XL, prompt version 1) read this channel’s own recent posts on 10 August 2026 and assigned it the closest of 31 fixed categories, at 73% confidence. This is a model’s judgement about what the channel is likely to be about, not a fact this register measured the way a subscriber count or a view count is measured — it can be revised on a later pass, and it carries no weight anywhere else on this page. How this classification works, and the other topics.
Observations
These are measurements, not verdicts. Each one below states something we counted, alongside the evidence it was counted from, so you can check it rather than take it. None of them is graded: every observation this register holds is recorded at severity 0, because the precision of the detectors behind them has not been measured yet, and a rating we cannot support is worse than none. Read each as a fact about the data, not as a judgement about the channel. How we measure.
Content that also appears on other registered channels
Posts published here appear in near-verbatim form on 12 other registered channels. This entry also sits inside a group of 34 channels linked by matching posts, directly or through other channels in the group; two members of the group may share no posts with each other. The matching is on the text itself, not on Telegram’s forward marker, so it finds a copy whether or not it was labelled as one.
Matching posts — open both and compare (6 of the pairs behind the counts below)
Channels this entry shares post bodies with, where at least one matching post pair has no forward credit between the two channels, or to a common source, recorded in our data
Text overlap is the Jaccard coefficient over the set of distinct three-word phrases in the two bodies: 1.00 is identical wording, and the threshold for counting a pair at all is 0.70. Candidates are generated by simhash LSH (4 x 16-bit bands, exact Hamming <= 3) verified against the bodies with Jaccard over the SET of distinct 3-word shingles. Published first counts which side of each matching pair carries the earlier timestamp — in this corpus, which is the limitation directly below.
What this cannot establish
MEASURED, DOMINANT ERROR SOURCE: a post ingested before 2026-08-06 may have carried a forward header that was not recorded. A 45-pair hand-check against live t.me pages found 14 (31%) where the live page shows a forward header naming the other channel and the database has none, plus 4 more (9%) naming a third party. The text match itself was wrong 0 times out of 45. Read attribution_capture.items_in_trusted_window before treating the unattributed count as a claim.
Telegram lets a channel forward a post with a header naming the source, and we only began reliably recording that header on 2026-08-06. 3 of the 6 matches recorded here fall after that date and carried no header when we read them. The rest predate reliable capture and are not evidence either way.
“Published first” means first in this corpus. We hold 561 comparable posts for this entry, running 2 August 2026 to 12 November 2026. A channel we have read one page deep will look younger than a neighbour we have read in full, and the order would flip with no change in the underlying facts.
The detector’s own notes on this observation, as it recorded them. Names in this_style are fields of the underlying evidence record, which the plain-English paragraphs above read out for this entry.
Verbatim republication has three causes and the text separates only two: a clone/mirror, unattributed copy-paste, or BOTH channels copying a common third source that neither attributes. The spread filter (content held by at most 8 channels) reduces the third and does not remove it.
'Earliest' means earliest IN THIS CORPUS. A channel ingested one page deep will look younger than a neighbour ingested in full; corpus_coverage above is there to be checked before the direction is believed.
shared_verified_est extrapolates the sampled pass rate over the full narrow match count; sampled/passed are the numbers actually measured.
Absence of a forward header is not proof of intent: Telegram lets a channel disable forward attribution, and a credit written in the body is not parsed as attribution here (mention_edge_either_way above is the closest available signal).
Of the group of 34 channels, the one whose matching posts we hold earliest is @redbinder. That channel is not among the channels listed above, so this entry may share no posts with it and this does not say where this entry’s content came from. It is a statement about our reading window, not a claim of authorship.
Recorded under the keys clone_copy · clone_mutual · clone_source, last confirmed 13 November 2026. An observation that a later pass no longer finds is cleared, and a cleared observation is removed from this page rather than being shown struck through — we do not keep publishing a claim we have withdrawn. Dispute an observation.
Channels linked by matching posts
This channel is in a group of 34 registered channels linked by matching posts, directly or through other channels in the group. This channel may share no posts with some of the channels listed below, and listed channels may share none with each other. Links are found by comparing text fingerprints across every channel on the register.
Which channel, if either, published first is deliberately not shown in this list. “First” could only mean first in our own crawl, which depends on how deep we happened to reach into each channel’s history, not on when the content was actually first posted. Our one hand-check read 45 of the highest-confidence flagged pairs against the live Telegram pages. In 18 of them the live page showed a “Forwarded from” credit that our database had no record of, so reading that pair as an unattributed copy was wrong; the check did not measure who published first. This list is ordered by subscriber count, the same as every other listing on this site, never by which channel we think came first. Near-verbatim matching has several ordinary explanations besides copying — a channel mirroring itself, an unattributed repost, or two channels independently repeating the same wire story — and this measurement cannot tell those apart. How this is measured.
67 measurements spanning 98 days, net -16,276. Dots are measurements; the straight line between them is drawn to join them, not to claim we know the path taken in between — snapshots are recorded only when a count changes, so gaps mean “no change observed”, never “interpolated”. The vertical axis spans 51,047–73,249 and does not start at zero.
Measurement log — every subscribers count we have recorded, most recent 20 of 67
Measured (UTC)
Subscribers
Change
12 Nov 2026, 07:35
53,609
-1,339
10 Nov 2026, 08:14
54,948
-615
8 Nov 2026, 20:28
55,563
-259
7 Nov 2026, 10:38
55,822
-245
6 Nov 2026, 08:16
56,067
-267
5 Nov 2026, 08:09
56,334
-139
4 Nov 2026, 10:07
56,473
-134
3 Nov 2026, 07:36
56,607
-133
2 Nov 2026, 04:58
56,740
-78
1 Nov 2026, 06:08
56,818
-84
31 Oct 2026, 09:10
56,902
-49
30 Oct 2026, 12:19
56,951
-1,824
29 Oct 2026, 10:36
58,775
-1,132
28 Oct 2026, 06:49
59,907
-60
27 Oct 2026, 05:27
59,967
-63
26 Oct 2026, 04:47
60,030
-69
25 Oct 2026, 03:19
60,099
+1,247
24 Oct 2026, 04:48
58,852
-36
23 Oct 2026, 08:16
58,888
-87
22 Oct 2026, 11:20
58,975
first reading
Engagement
612 posts held, back to 2 August 2026 — the reader has not yet reached the start of this channel’s public history, so older posts may sit further back, unread. Read across 200 pages of Telegram’s post history, 20 posts per page.
ERR · 30 days
3.18%
avg views ÷ 53,609 subscribers
Avg views / post
1,710
169 posts measured
Reaction rate
—
this channel exposes no reaction counts
Posts in window
169
of 612 held
ERR is average views per post over the last 30 days divided by subscribers, the definition TGStat uses, so this figure is comparable with the one you will see elsewhere. It falls structurally as a channel grows: a high ERR on a small channel and a low one on a large channel describe reach mathematics, not quality. We publish the figure and the sample it came from and pass no verdict on it.
ER is defined industry-wide as (forwards + reactions + comments) ÷ views — note the denominator is views, not subscribers. Telegram’s public web preview carries views and reactions but not forward or comment counts, so the reaction rate above is the reactions term only and is therefore a floor: the true ER for this channel is higher by an amount we have not measured and will not estimate.
What these figures were computed from
Window
Rolling 30 days · latest post in window 13 November 2026
Posts held
612 (2 August 2026 – 13 November 2026)
Views total
288,510
Reactions total
—
Forwards / comments
not exposed by the public surface — not measured, not estimated
Readings taken
13 Nov 2026, 21:05 UTC
Views are a single reading per post, taken at the time above. A post published in the last day or two is still accumulating views, which pulls the 30-day average down slightly. That is a property of the standard definition rather than a fault in it, so we keep the definition rather than “correcting” the number into something nobody can reproduce.
Precision. Telegram publishes view counts on its public widget in short form — 8.12K, 3.7M — so any reading at or above 1,000 reaches us rounded to three significant figures, and only counts below 1,000 are exact. Averages and rates derived from them are shown to the same precision rather than to the unit: a figure like 3,701,250 would assert digits nobody measured.
Reaction counts are published per emoji and rounded the same way, so a total below 1,000 is exact and a larger one is a sum that may carry a rounded component from each emoji above 1,000. Because it is a sum, it does not look rounded — read a large reaction total as three significant figures per contributing emoji rather than as the figure it prints.
What this channel posts
Photos
≈4,870
Videos
≈3,350
Links
≈10,600
Lifetime counters from Telegram’s own channel header, read 13 November 2026 — not the date at the top of this page, which is when the subscriber count was last read. A count marked ≈ was rounded by Telegram before we ever saw it — t.me prints these counters in full below 1,000 and to three significant figures above, so ≈142,000 means somewhere between 141,500 and 142,499.
Video runtime
2h 09m
Average length
53s
Measured directly from 146 videos with a duration reading, out of the posts we hold for this channel — not this channel’s whole posting history, only the sample this register has actually read. An exact reading to the second, taken from the post itself rather than from Telegram’s own rounded chrome, so it carries no ≈ mark.
Advertising
Ad load
0.163%
1 of 612 posts carry an ad marker
Regulatory tokens
1
posts carrying an erid · 1 distinct token
Median views · ads
902
over 1 measured post
Median views · rest
1,170
over 611 measured posts
An ad marker, not a judgement about a post. A post is counted here because it carries one of two explicit markings: an erid token, which Russian law has required on paid placements since 2022 and which is issued against a specific advertising contract, or a #реклама / #ad hashtag in the body, which is the channel declaring it itself. The first is documentary; the second is a self-declaration and is weaker. No classifier reads the text and decides — nothing on this site guesses that a post is an advertisement.
This is a floor, and it can only ever be a floor. A channel that runs paid placements without marking them produces no marker for us to count, and an unmarked ad is indistinguishable from an ordinary post on the public surface. The ad load above therefore means “the share of posts that declared themselves”, never “the share of posts that were paid for”. A low figure is not evidence of a channel that runs few ads.
Both figures are medians, and no ratio between them is published. Each is a view reading that actually occurred on a post, picked by percentile_disc rather than averaged, so one viral post cannot move it and no interpolated value is invented between two readings. The sample on one side is under five posts, which is too thin to compare. The two figures are shown side by side with the count behind each, and deliberately not divided into a headline like “ads get x% fewer views” — an arithmetic that is easy to print and, at this sample size, means nothing.
Advertising tokens recorded on this entry
erid
Posts
First seen
Last seen
F7NfYUJCUneVewixPTza
1
8 November 2026
8 November 2026
A token repeated across several posts is one advertising contract placed more than once, which is what the identifier is for. The strings are reproduced exactly as they appeared in the post or in its click-through URL and are not validated against any registry — we record the marker a channel published, and whether it resolves to a real contract is a question for the register that issued it.
Measured over the 612 most recent posts we hold, published 2 August 2026 to 13 November 2026. Views are the latest single reading held for each post, and any reading at or above 1,000 is rounded by Telegram to three significant figures.
Recent posts
Telegram’s own ‘edited’ marker: 0 of 169 posts held from the last 30 days (0%) carried it when this register last read them. The marker says a post was changed after publishing, not what it said before — this register holds the earlier wording only where an edit fell between two of its own reads (see the edit ledger and how it is measured).
Очередной подрыв офицера в Петербурге: что известно о гибели полковника Дмитрия Лободина
Утром в петербургских Шушарах на Колпинском шоссе при взрыве личного авто погиб главный штурман 6-й армии ВВС и ПВО, участник боевых действий в Украине полковник Дмитрий Лободин.
Самодельную бомбу с GPS-маячком закрепили на днище ночью и удаленно активировали в 7 утра, когда офицер отъехал от дома всего на 300 метров. В машине …
Другой масштаб
Недавно я купил сыну футбольные карточки.
– Сколько ты купил, папа?
– 360.
– А я думал, пять или десять.
Жена засмеялась:
— Папа всегда так действует. У него другой масштаб.
Похоже, это и правда, мой способ жить. Я всё умножаю на два, три или пять.
В детстве я выиграл краевую олимпиаду по литературе, но мне этого было мало, я побеждал на научно-практических конференциях старшеклассников по обществ…
Коллеги поавы на все 100%.
Неотвратимость наказания, а не всеобщие порицание. Только так можно навести порядок с мигрантами.
https://t.me/donbasscase/21109
«Северный Кузбасс» снова остановил добычу угля: счета заморожены, платить людям нечем
Ситуация на предприятии в Кемеровской области, которое уже второй год тянет за собой шлейф проблем, достигла дна.
После совещания с руководством АО «УК «Северный Кузбасс» и надзорными органами замгубернатора региона Андрей Панов подтвердил:
➡️ компания вновь остановила добычу угля,
➡️ счета заморожены налоговой,
➡️ платить зарплат…
Наши люди... только толку с того, весы уже качнулись в другую сторону и они теперь дорогой бесполезный балласт. Курточки красивые и, в принципе, на этом всё.
Четверть мировой добычи алмазов? Забудьте. Главный бренд Якутии теперь — навозный асфальт
Контраст, от которого разит на всю страну: регион, который буквально заваливает Россию золотом, ураном, нефтью и обеспечивает 80% российских и 25% мировых (!) объемов алмазов, перешел на «органические» технологии. В селе Чурапча люди устали ждать, пока рабочие восстанавливят дорожное полотно и закопают траншею после укладки газ…
Дороги в Якутии начали удобрять. Может, асфальт вырастет
📩 В Якутии, похоже, совершили прорыв в дорожном строительстве. В селе Чурапча жители, не дождавшись восстановления дороги после прокладки газопровода, заложили ямы замёрзшим навозом.
И ведь речь идёт не о бедном регионе, которому нечем похвастаться. Якутия – один из главных сырьевых центров России, край алмазов, золота, нефти и газа. Богатства здесь буквально…
Российский рынок остается главным, пока торговля Минска с остальным миром уходит в минус
Товарооборот Беларуси и России «прилично» растет. Об этом Александр Лукашенко заявил на встрече с Президентом России Владимиром Путиным, передает корреспондент БЕЛТА.
«Вы сказали о товарообороте: он действительно в этом году прилично растет, процентов на 20, где-то 21 с лишним. Мы торгуем нужными для Беларуси и России товарами …
Холмогоров: Когда в Россию заезжают мигранты и этих представителей чужих стран много, они воспроизводят социум на новом месте и закрепляют его всеми возможными способами.
Допускать этого нельзя, иначе вся Россия покроется чужими "странами", и они начнут требовать суверенитет.
В Кишиневе готовы полностью присоединиться к санкциям ЕС против Минска и Москвы
Молдова готова присоединиться к оставшимся секторальным санкциям Евросоюза против Беларуси и России, заявил на конференции по вопросам расширения ЕС 9 ноября в Кишиневе министр иностранных дел Молдовы Михай Попшой. Соответствующие решения, по словам главы внешнеполитического ведомства, ожидаются в ближайшее время, сообщает общественный т…
Showing the 12 most recent of 612 posts we hold for @donbasscase. View and reaction counts are the latest single reading for each post, not a live figure, and a recent post is still accumulating both. A view count marked ≈ was rounded by Telegram before we ever saw it — t.me prints views in full below 1,000 and to three significant figures above, so ≈1,200,000 means somewhere between 1,150,000 and 1,249,999. Unmarked counts are exact. Text is reproduced from the public post preview and truncated for length.
Forward network
Republished by
Channels on the register that have forwarded this channel's posts into their own feed.
Built only from forwarded posts we have actually read, on both sides. Coverage is early and deliberately incomplete: a missing link means we have not read the post that would prove it, never that the relationship does not exist. Counts are distinct forwarded posts observed, so they only ever go up as we read more.
Mentions
Named by 133 registered channels — every channel on the register whose own posts have named this one, by its current username or any other username it currently holds, merged from two separately captured readings of the same fact so a namer caught by only one of them is not missed and a namer both caught is not counted twice. A username this channel has since dropped is not matched — that handle may belong to someone else now, and crediting today’s namer to yesterday’s owner would misattribute it. The 24 listed below are the most frequent namers; the rest are counted above but not each listed.
Named by
Channels on the register whose posts name this channel's handle.
A mention is a weaker signal than a forward and is counted separately for that reason — naming a channel is not republishing it, and a handle in a post body is easy to place deliberately. The post counts beside each row below are distinct posts in which the handle appeared, from posts we have read on both sides — the “Named by N registered channels” figure above is a different count, of distinct NAMING CHANNELS rather than posts, and is not the sum of the rows under it.
Handles this channel named that no longer answer
Dead references
3
handles named in this channel’s posts, vacant today
Evidenced gone
1
we ourselves saw one of these resolve, at some point
Never seen alive
2
vacant every time we have ever looked
@donbasscase named 3 handles that resolve to nothing today. That is a fact about the reference, not necessarily a fact about the handle’s history — see the two groups below.
Most of these may never have existed as a live channel at all. A handle a channel names can be a typo, an aspirational name nobody registered, or a channel that was already gone before this one ever mentioned it. Unless a row below is marked evidenced, all we know is that it references a handle that is not a live channel today — not that anything “died”. How this is measured.
Evidenced gone
We ourselves saw each of these resolve to a real page at some point before it went vacant — a genuine, evidenced change, not an inference from absence.
@izvestia named in 2 posts, 13 September 2026 – 15 September 2026 · confirmed gone 19 October 2026 (two independent sightings — see how we confirm a dead handle)evidenced
Never seen alive
References a handle that is not a live channel — we have no record it ever was one.
@northturizm named in 3 posts, 13 September 2026 – 28 September 2026
@rt_russian named in 3 posts, 13 September 2026 – 28 September 2026
Channels Telegram recommends alongside this one
Telegram’s own answer, not this register’s. When this register asks Telegram’s API what is similar to this channel, this is the list it returns, in the exact order Telegram returns it — never re-sorted by subscribers or by anything else this register measures. The relationship, and the order, are Telegram’s; we record them and date them, and make no claim of our own about which of these channels actually resemble this one.
Read from Telegram’s recommendation API, most recently 22 August 2026. Telegram holds a list like this for a small and growing share of the register — how this is measured, and why most channel pages show nothing here.
Appears in Telegram’s recommendations for other channels
The reverse of the list above, and a different kind of signal. This does not require this channel to have ever been asked about directly — each row below is a channel we DID ask Telegram about, whose Telegram-generated list happened to include this one. A channel can appear here with an empty list above it, because being named by someone else’s query is independent of having been queried itself.
Тенденции эпохи @eratrends · 142,677 Telegram ranks this channel #14 of 89 here — alongside 88 others — read 13 August 2026
Пятилетка @pyatiletka111 · 50,314 Telegram ranks this channel #15 of 92 here — alongside 91 others — read 25 August 2026
Пророк России @prorokrussia · 51,385 Telegram ranks this channel #32 of 92 here — alongside 91 others — read 24 August 2026
Плавильный котёл @plavkotell · 50,692 Telegram ranks this channel #47 of 93 here — alongside 92 others — read 25 August 2026
Зона особого внимания @zonaosoboho · 152,265 Telegram ranks this channel #56 of 92 here — alongside 91 others — read 12 August 2026
This channel appears in 5 seed channels' Telegram-generated recommendation lists in total. Each is Telegram’s list for THAT channel, not this one — see how this is measured.
Referenced elsewhere
This handle named by sources this register does not control and did not measure — each shown exactly as found, attributed by name, dated to when it was read.
Wikipedia
2 Wikipedia articles name this handle in its article text, found by searching for a t.me link inside the article source. A citation is a notability signal, not a verification: nobody here confirmed the cited post is genuine or still says what the article quotes. Article text is CC BY-SA 4.0, Wikipedia contributors; snippets below are short excerpts.
Луганский трамвай(ru.wikipedia.org) “…archive.org/web/20210127091857/https://t.me/kazansky2017/1329 |url-status=live }}{{Cite web |url=https://t.me/donbasscase/2498 |title=Telegram:…” read 1 November 2026
Луганський трамвай(uk.wikipedia.org) “…archive.org/web/20210127091857/https://t.me/kazansky2017/1329 |deadlink=no }}{{Cite web |url=https://t.me/donbasscase/2498 |title=Telegram: Contact…” read 1 November 2026
Cite this entry
A live page changes as we take new readings, so a citation should name the measurement it is based on, not just the URL. The line below cites the subscriber count as measured 12 November 2026 — this
entry's latest reading, not the date you are reading this.
“Донбасский Кейс” (@donbasscase), 53,609 subscribers as measured 12 November 2026. Telegram Register, tgregister.com/channel/donbasscase.
Full measurement history, CC BY 4.0. Every reading this register holds for this entry, not just the latest one, as a dated, downloadable record: CSV · JSON. Free to use with attribution to tgregister.com. Each file carries its own generation timestamp, which is the figure to cite for exactly when the data was retrieved.