А чему тут удивляться, ложь там не грех, а "инструмент ведения бизнеса", причем далеко не только у хохлов. https://t.me/margaritasimonyan/16334

Channel
Ortega Z 🇷🇺
@niemandswasser
On this record: Topic · Previous handles · Growth · Engagement · What this channel posts · Posts · Citations · Handles named that no longer answer · Telegram's recommendations · Cite this entry
8,920subscribers
-33 since we began measuring on 5 August 2026
Risers and fallers across the register · movement among entries of 3,162–10,000.
Register entry
| Telegram ID | -1001069707522 |
|---|---|
| Type | Channel |
| Username | @niemandswasser |
| Created | 5 September 2016 — measured — cross-checked against a third-party dataset (ext.tg_channel) |
| First recorded | 6 August 2026 |
| Last confirmed live | 27 September 2026 |
| Measurements held | 14 |
| Confirmed unchanged | 1 time, most recently 27 September 2026 |
| On Telegram | t.me/niemandswasser |
Topic
Politics & activism — a classification, not a measurement. An on-box language model (Qwen3.6-35B-A3B-FP8, prompt version 1) read this channel’s own recent posts on 11 September 2026 and assigned it the closest of 31 fixed categories, at 53% confidence. This is a model’s judgement about what the channel is likely to be about, not a fact this register measured the way a subscriber count or a view count is measured — it can be revised on a later pass, and it carries no weight anywhere else on this page. How this classification works, and why it has no browse page of its own yet.
Previous handles
Recorded in 2019 as “Ortega” — the title held for this same channel (matched by Telegram id, not by handle) in the Pushshift Telegram Dataset, a third-party archive captured in 2019-2020, years before this register made its own first observation. CC BY 4.0, Baumgartner, Zannettou, Squire & Blackburn (2020), Zenodo. A third party’s dated snapshot, not a measurement this register made itself.
Growth
| Measured (UTC) | Subscribers | Change |
|---|---|---|
| 27 Sept 2026, 22:37 | 8,920 | -8 |
| 15 Sept 2026, 13:00 | 8,928 | -5 |
| 11 Sept 2026, 22:01 | 8,933 | -3 |
| 7 Sept 2026, 18:57 | 8,936 | -8 |
| 2 Sept 2026, 18:25 | 8,944 | +14 |
| 30 Aug 2026, 12:54 | 8,930 | -7 |
| 27 Aug 2026, 22:36 | 8,937 | -8 |
| 25 Aug 2026, 05:16 | 8,945 | -2 |
| 22 Aug 2026, 10:37 | 8,947 | +3 |
| 16 Aug 2026, 08:46 | 8,944 | -2 |
| 13 Aug 2026, 03:05 | 8,946 | -8 |
| 6 Aug 2026, 14:07 | 8,954 | +1 |
| 6 Aug 2026, 02:52 | 8,953 | no change |
| 5 Aug 2026, 22:18 | 8,953 | first reading |
Engagement
86 posts held, back to 1 August 2026 — the reader has not yet reached the start of this channel’s public history, so older posts may sit further back, unread. Read across 31 pages of Telegram’s post history, 20 posts per page.
Nothing published in the last 30 days. ERR and ER are rolling 30-day measures, so there is nothing to compute — we hold 86 posts for this entry, the most recent from 28 August 2026. An engagement rate over an empty window would be a number about nothing.
What this channel posts
- Video runtime
- 12m 59s
- Average length
- 2m 36s
Measured directly from 5 videos with a duration reading, out of the posts we hold for this channel — not this channel’s whole posting history, only the sample this register has actually read. An exact reading to the second, taken from the post itself rather than from Telegram’s own rounded chrome, so it carries no ≈ mark.
Recent posts
Сливы, пробивы, взвейтесь, развейтесь... Я бы предположил, что полученные сведения в первую очередь будут использоваться на местах для "укрепления переговорной позиции"(тм) Чтоб не было никаких "мужики, да откуда у меня пятьсот тысяч, вы чо, вообще офигели?"
Военкоматы получат расширенные данные о военнообязанных россиянах — сведения о доходах, банковские счета, кредиты, место работы и медицинскую информацию. Минобороны подготовило проект приказа, который заметно расширяет объем сведений, которые военные смогут получать о гражданах при отборе на отдельные должности. Причем речь идет не только о самих кандидатах и военнослужащих: доступ к значительной части информации пре…
НЖТИ 00630 ВЫЕМОВАЛ 3919 8278 ДУШЕГУБ 2529 8283 Выемовал - это ещё мягко сказано
История, особенно история моей Москвы, для меня дело личное: я учился в школе в Малом Палашевском переулке, потом в Литинституте на Твербуле, у Пушкина кучу свиданий, - что несовременно девочкам, - наззначал. Вы меня уже один раз обокрали, с памятником Дзержинскому работы великого Вучетича, давайте ещё и эту часть моей юности украдите. Удивительная страсть оборудовать пионерскую комнату православными крестами с пь…
Досадно, да. Действительно, досадно. А в России им чем заниматься? С вепене воевать? https://t.me/rlz_the_kraken/89009
Ответом России на удары ВСУ с применением британского оружия могут стать военные объекты Британии — на Украине и за ее пределами, заявила Мария Захарова. 11 ноября 2025 года МИД РФ заявил что готовит ответные меры на запрет ЕС выдавать россиянам многократные визы. Никаких ответных мер никто конечно же не приготовил.
Продинторг 1970 плакат
Боюсь, камрад, это приполз сам ебомый козёл за второй порцией. Видимо, понравилось. https://t.me/niemandswasser/56642
В России решили провести эксперимент Шредингера, но вместо коробки и кота взяли стадион и негра. Благодаря этой особенности эксперимента удалось подтвердить не только квантовую, но и социальную запутанность на макроуровне. Запутались абсолютно все.
Благодарные читатели в шоке: - за что 100 лет сказкам впаяли? - ЗА ФЕЙКИ!
А за что несчастным сказкам аж сто лет впаяли? https://t.me/vlagr/17429
Showing the 12 most recent of 86 posts we hold for @niemandswasser. View and reaction counts are the latest single reading for each post, not a live figure, and a recent post is still accumulating both. A view count marked ≈ was rounded by Telegram before we ever saw it — t.me prints views in full below 1,000 and to three significant figures above, so ≈1,200,000 means somewhere between 1,150,000 and 1,249,999. Unmarked counts are exact. Text is reproduced from the public post preview and truncated for length.
Forward network
Republished by
Channels on the register that have forwarded this channel's posts into their own feed.
@fuckyouthatswhy · 24,0918 postsЕфим Дикий: Вторая попытка
@EDikiy · 1,1522 postsОтряд 22: ZOV
@squad22_game · 1,2592 postsPolit Talk
@talk_polit · 1822 postsBaronova
@Baronova · 6,5961 postlaroza
@Iaroza · 11 postИРИЖ(институт разработки идеальной жертвы)
@Irizh · 721 postZERGULIO
@SergeyKolyasnikov · 452,4871 postI have a dream
@TheWAGMI · 91 postСторонний наблюдатель
@beobahter · 11 postКМГГ Inc.
@kmgginc · 1311 postЛенинский прищур
@octoberserk · 301 postПридыбайло
@pridybaylo_k · 15,0801 postВыпускайте КракенаZ!
@rlz_the_kraken · 506,6681 postПетуха спросить забыли
@rooster_speaks · 171 postСеклетинья П.
@sekletinia · 31 postст. Баррикадная
@stbarrikadnaya · 211 postХроника третьей мировой
@thirdwarchronic · 561 postTrade Talk
@trade_talk_tech · 5,4781 post
Republishes
Channels on the register whose posts this channel has forwarded.
@malzoffsgallery · 30,7197 postsРадио Лекух
@radlekukh · 15,2505 postsНа берегу Цифрового Вавилона
@digitalbabilon · 583 postsДорогая Хурма
@expensive_hurma · 151,3003 postsМаргарита Симоньян
@margaritasimonyan · 510,8163 postsВЛагерь
@vlagr · 10,3203 postsСамойлов
@oversized_shirts · 11,1972 postsБЧН [Больше чем новости]
@batyachitaet · 33,0631 postКак я поехал на войну. Платон Маматов.
@diomeddog · 53,9121 postАРТ-ПРОП: Два вождя после дождя
@dva_vozdja · 13,4251 postFYTW
@fuckyouthatswhy · 24,0911 postИрина Галушко
@galulala · 3,7781 postRuGG. Скандалы, игры, повесточка
@ggscg_tg · 13,4511 postМышь в овощном
@kbrvdvkr · 80,3611 postКМГГ Inc.
@kmgginc · 1311 postМедиатехнолог
@mediatech · 147,3061 postобо всякое
@obovsyakoe · 1,3431 postСергей Изотов
@postizotov · 3,3861 postРадио Африка
@realradioafrica · 3,0241 postСлово Славы
@slovoslavy · 13,4231 postДружок, это Южинский кружок
@umamleev · 9,1041 postУсы Вилли Токарева
@usywilly · 10,7541 postvasyunin z online
@vasyunin · 2,5451 post
Built only from forwarded posts we have actually read, on both sides. Coverage is early and deliberately incomplete: a missing link means we have not read the post that would prove it, never that the relationship does not exist. Counts are distinct forwarded posts observed, so they only ever go up as we read more.
Mentions
Named by 28 registered channels — every channel on the register whose own posts have named this one, by its current username or any other username it currently holds, merged from two separately captured readings of the same fact so a namer caught by only one of them is not missed and a namer both caught is not counted twice. A username this channel has since dropped is not matched — that handle may belong to someone else now, and crediting today’s namer to yesterday’s owner would misattribute it. The 24 listed below are the most frequent namers; the rest are counted above but not each listed.
Named by
Channels on the register whose posts name this channel's handle.
@docpro · 141,23318 postsРаньше всех. Ну почти.
@bbbreaking · 1,974,4026 postsЖурналистика
@dddjournalism · 132,1826 postsРадио Лекух
@radlekukh · 15,2506 postsКолезев ☮️
@kolezev · 59,8293 postsReadovka
@readovkanews · 2,014,9012 postsОтряд 22: ZOV
@squad22_game · 1,2592 postsTelegram - врачам!
@telegadoctor · 752 posts9 утра | Новости и анонсы
@v9utra · 74,1462 postsУгольный #4>5
@zola_of_renovation · 34,5282 postsBaksicheva🖤
@baksicheva · 6881 postZаписки авантюриста
@BeregTime · 21,2361 postКриптополитика
@Cryptopolitics · 51 postфрэнч диспэтч
@frdispatch · 891 postFYTW
@fuckyouthatswhy · 24,0911 postlaroza
@Iaroza · 11 postКот Х.П.
@Kothueplet · 19,7181 postМихаил Аксель
@mihailaksel · 4,2761 postИнфо шум
@noiseboom · 11 postПартайгеноссе Z
@parteigenosse_z · 281 postФилолог в засаде
@philologist_zov · 59,5711 postСиги Лаврова
@sigilavrova · 271 postВАРИАНТ
@variantnews · 134,8011 postВигиланты на марше
@vigilant_on · 61 post
Names
Channels on the register whose handles appear in this channel's posts.
@fuckyouthatswhy · 24,0912 postsПрямое действие⚡️Z
@adirect · 15,2591 postАнтонов такой Антонов
@auantonov · 321,3141 postБЧН [Больше чем новости]
@batyachitaet · 33,0631 postРаньше всех. Ну почти.
@bbbreaking · 1,974,4021 postDaria Vaganova 🇷🇺
@daria_vaganova_rt · 2,3601 postИрина Галушко
@galulala · 3,7781 postИГРОПРОМ
@igroprom · 5,0671 postИрина Волк
@IrinaVolk_MVD · 51,9321 postFantastic Plastic Machine
@Ivorytowers · 16,5241 postКот Х.П.
@Kothueplet · 19,7181 postКристина Потупчик
@krispotupchik · 151,5251 postМаргарита Симоньян
@margaritasimonyan · 510,8161 postMash
@mash · 3,110,5861 postАндрей Медведев
@MedvedevVesti · 183,0291 postобо всякое
@obovsyakoe · 1,3431 postКультурная волна. Гранты ПФКИ
@pfci_grants · 20,6641 postВыпускайте КракенаZ!
@rlz_the_kraken · 506,6681 postСлово Славы
@slovoslavy · 13,4231 postСоколов-Митрич
@smitrich · 5,0951 postВЛагерь
@vlagr · 10,3201 postСтарше Эдды
@vysokygovorit · 491,0851 post
A mention is a weaker signal than a forward and is counted separately for that reason — naming a channel is not republishing it, and a handle in a post body is easy to place deliberately. The post counts beside each row below are distinct posts in which the handle appeared, from posts we have read on both sides — the “Named by N registered channels” figure above is a different count, of distinct NAMING CHANNELS rather than posts, and is not the sum of the rows under it.
Handles this channel named that no longer answer
- Dead references
- 4
- handles named in this channel’s posts, vacant today
- Evidenced gone
- 0
- we ourselves saw one of these resolve, at some point
- Never seen alive
- 4
- vacant every time we have ever looked
@niemandswasser named 4 handles that resolve to nothing today. That is a fact about the reference, not necessarily a fact about the handle’s history — see the two groups below.
Most of these may never have existed as a live channel at all. A handle a channel names can be a typo, an aspirational name nobody registered, or a channel that was already gone before this one ever mentioned it. Unless a row below is marked evidenced, all we know is that it references a handle that is not a live channel today — not that anything “died”. How this is measured.
Never seen alive
References a handle that is not a live channel — we have no record it ever was one.
named in 6 posts, 8 August 2026 – 28 August 2026
named in 2 posts, 23 August 2026 – 24 August 2026
named in 2 posts, 8 August 2026 – 9 August 2026
named in 1 post, 19 August 2026 – 19 August 2026
Appears in Telegram’s recommendations for other channels
The reverse of the list above, and a different kind of signal. This does not require this channel to have ever been asked about directly — each row below is a channel we DID ask Telegram about, whose Telegram-generated list happened to include this one. A channel can appear here with an empty list above it, because being named by someone else’s query is independent of having been queried itself.
@kbrvdvkr · 80,361
Telegram ranks this channel #20 of 91 here — alongside 90 others — read 18 August 2026
@fuckyouthatswhy · 24,091
Telegram ranks this channel #42 of 89 here — alongside 88 others — read 16 September 2026
@real_cultras · 24,267
Telegram ranks this channel #54 of 90 here — alongside 89 others — read 16 September 2026
@malzoffsgallery · 30,719
Telegram ranks this channel #60 of 90 here — alongside 89 others — read 6 September 2026
@mysly · 161,665
Telegram ranks this channel #67 of 96 here — alongside 95 others — read 13 August 2026
@docpro · 141,233
Telegram ranks this channel #71 of 96 here — alongside 95 others — read 13 August 2026
@chaoss_flame · 51,951
Telegram ranks this channel #72 of 89 here — alongside 88 others — read 29 August 2026
@go338 · 143,325
Telegram ranks this channel #83 of 87 here — alongside 86 others — read 13 August 2026
@explaining · 106,361
Telegram ranks this channel #86 of 100 here — alongside 99 others — read 15 August 2026
This channel appears in 9 seed channels' Telegram-generated recommendation lists in total. Each is Telegram’s list for THAT channel, not this one — see how this is measured.
Cite this entry
A live page changes as we take new readings, so a citation should name the measurement it is based on, not just the URL. The line below cites the subscriber count as measured 27 September 2026 — this entry's latest reading, not the date you are reading this.
“Ortega Z 🇷🇺” (@niemandswasser), 8,920 subscribers as measured 27 September 2026. Telegram Register, tgregister.com/channel/niemandswasser.
Full measurement history, CC BY 4.0. Every reading this register holds for this entry, not just the latest one, as a dated, downloadable record: CSV · JSON. Free to use with attribution to tgregister.com. Each file carries its own generation timestamp, which is the figure to cite for exactly when the data was retrieved.