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Channel
پریشانگوییهای قلم مست
@confusing_speech_of_a_groggy_pen
On this record: Growth · Engagement · Reactions · Posts · Citations · Cite this entry
74subscribers
+0 since we began measuring on 10 August 2026
Risers and fallers across the register · movement among entries of Under 1,000.
Register entry
| Telegram ID | -1001462315334 |
|---|---|
| Type | Channel |
| Username | @confusing_speech_of_a_groggy_pen |
| Created | Between 1 April 2019 and 31 October 2021 — estimated from Telegram’s id allocation, not measured. How this range is calculated. |
| First recorded | 10 August 2026 |
| Last confirmed live | 19 September 2026 |
| Measurements held | 2 |
| Confirmed unchanged | 6 times, most recently 19 September 2026 |
| On Telegram | t.me/confusing_speech_of_a_groggy_pen |
Growth
| Measured (UTC) | Subscribers | Change |
|---|---|---|
| 11 Aug 2026, 11:36 | 74 | no change |
| 10 Aug 2026, 17:15 | 74 | first reading |
Engagement
20 posts held, back to 10 August 2026 — the reader has not yet reached the start of this channel’s public history, so older posts may sit further back, unread. Read across 1 page of Telegram’s post history, 20 posts per page.
Nothing published in the last 30 days. ERR and ER are rolling 30-day measures, so there is nothing to compute — we hold 20 posts for this entry, the most recent from 10 August 2026. An engagement rate over an empty window would be a number about nothing.
Reaction mix
3 reactions across 1 post, in 1 kind.
| Reaction | Count | Share | Share, drawn |
|---|---|---|---|
| 👍 | 3 | 100.0% |
No sentiment is inferred, and none should be read in. This table is ordered by count and by nothing else. Emoji do not carry stable meaning across languages or communities — 🙏 is thanks in one channel and mourning in another — so we publish which ones were pressed and how often, and pass no judgement on what an audience meant by them.
Precision. Telegram publishes reaction counts per emoji and short-forms each one — 4.34K, 1.2M — so any single kind at or above 1,000 reaches us at three significant figures, and only counts below 1,000 are exact. The shares above are ratios of those figures and carry the same error. This is also why the total here can differ slightly from a reaction total printed elsewhere on the page: both are sums of the same rounded parts, taken over samples with different edges.
Coverage. Reactions were read on 1 of the 20 sampled posts in this sample. Summed by Telegram’s own count on each post — not by adding up the per-emoji breakdown above — those same posts carry 3 reactions in total: the kind of figure the paragraph above means by “a reaction total printed elsewhere on the page”.
Measured over the 20 most recent posts we hold, published 10 August 2026 to 10 August 2026, using the newest reading held for each. Telegram Stars are excluded: they are a payment, not a reaction, and they have their own section.
Recent posts
اما با این حال «قعر» و «زمین» در نسبت «بالا» و «آسمان» همیشه موقعیت فروتری داشتن.
البته توجه دارم که حتی در همین بدنمندی کنونی نیز به علتهای گوناگون نظیر باروری و کشاورزی زمین نیز بهشدت آبستن به فهمهای الهیاتی بوده نظیر الهههای مادر زمین در فرهنگهای گوناگون
یعنی آیا بهشت در آن صورت به جای آسمان در قعر زمین نبود؟
در این زمینه فکر کنید اگر بدنمندی انسان چونان کرم مبتنی بر خزیدن بود و درکی از بالا نداشت (گمانم کرمها کلا درکی از بالا و آسمان نداشته باشند)، آیا براش «پایین»، «زمین» و «قعر» و... به عنوان امور قدسی و الهی درک نمیشد؟
حال سوال اینه که آیا آسمان حقیقتاً قدسی و الهی است یا در کتب مقدس چون انسان با این بدنمندی خو گرفته و الهیات رو اساساً اینگونه میفهمه اینطور بیان شده؟ (واقعیت راه سوم و بینابینی نیز هست که چون طولانی میشه معذورم توضیح بدم)
این «آسمانه» که محل عرش الهی میشه و نه «زمین».
این موقعیت بدن در نسبت بالا و پایین به این مفاهیم وزن الهیاتی میبخشه.
انسان هنگامی که روی دوپا میایسته، «زمین» در «زیر» پاشه، بر اون مسلطه و روش راه میره. در عوض «آسمان» در «بالای» سر، جهانی ناشناخته و لایتناهی بهنظر میرسه و انسان تا مدتها در فراق جستجو درش و پرواز بین ابرها میسوزه.
گمان حقیر که شواهدی انسانشناختی تا حدی تعیین میکنه اینه که این تبدیل بسیار به بدنمندی انسان مرتبطه.
برای خیلی از مفاهیم این اتفاق افتاده.
از اون طرف پایین تبدیل به امری پست (توجه کنید که پستی که در حقیقت مفهوم جغرافیایی است همنشین رذالت به عنوان امری اخلاقی شده)، ترسناک (مثلا در اساطیر یونان جهنم در قعر زمینه)، کوچکی، حقارت و... شده.
Showing the 12 most recent of 20 posts we hold for @confusing_speech_of_a_groggy_pen. View and reaction counts are the latest single reading for each post, not a live figure, and a recent post is still accumulating both. A view count marked ≈ was rounded by Telegram before we ever saw it — t.me prints views in full below 1,000 and to three significant figures above, so ≈1,200,000 means somewhere between 1,150,000 and 1,249,999. Unmarked counts are exact. Text is reproduced from the public post preview and truncated for length.
Forward network
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Channels on the register that have forwarded this channel's posts into their own feed.
Republishes
Channels on the register whose posts this channel has forwarded.
Built only from forwarded posts we have actually read, on both sides. Coverage is early and deliberately incomplete: a missing link means we have not read the post that would prove it, never that the relationship does not exist. Counts are distinct forwarded posts observed, so they only ever go up as we read more.
Cite this entry
A live page changes as we take new readings, so a citation should name the measurement it is based on, not just the URL. The line below cites the subscriber count as measured 11 August 2026 — this entry's latest reading, not the date you are reading this.
“پریشانگوییهای قلم مست” (@confusing_speech_of_a_groggy_pen), 74 subscribers as measured 11 August 2026. Telegram Register, tgregister.com/channel/confusing_speech_of_a_groggy_pen.
Full measurement history, CC BY 4.0. Every reading this register holds for this entry, not just the latest one, as a dated, downloadable record: CSV · JSON. Free to use with attribution to tgregister.com. Each file carries its own generation timestamp, which is the figure to cite for exactly when the data was retrieved.