Место собрания всех московских 吃货
Обзоры на самые необычные китайские места столицы
Автор @Pandorar
По вопросам рекламы/коллабораций @shi_bushi_assistent
Created
30 October 2022 — measured — cross-checked against a third-party dataset (ext.tg_channel)
Other / unclassifiable — a classification, not a measurement. An on-box language model (Qwen3.6-35B-A3B-FP8, prompt version 1) read this channel’s own recent posts on 11 September 2026 and assigned it the closest of 31 fixed categories, at 81% confidence. This is a model’s judgement about what the channel is likely to be about, not a fact this register measured the way a subscriber count or a view count is measured — it can be revised on a later pass, and it carries no weight anywhere else on this page. How this classification works, and the other topics.
Observations
These are measurements, not verdicts. Each one below states something we counted, alongside the evidence it was counted from, so you can check it rather than take it. None of them is graded: every observation this register holds is recorded at severity 0, because the precision of the detectors behind them has not been measured yet, and a rating we cannot support is worse than none. Read each as a fact about the data, not as a judgement about the channel. How we measure.
Content that also appears on other registered channels
Posts published here appear in near-verbatim form on 1 other registered channel. This entry also forms a group of 2 channels linked by matching posts. The matching is on the text itself, not on Telegram’s forward marker, so it finds a copy whether or not it was labelled as one.
Matching posts — open both and compare (6 of the pairs behind the counts below)
Channels this entry shares post bodies with, where at least one matching post pair has no forward credit between the two channels, or to a common source, recorded in our data
Text overlap is the Jaccard coefficient over the set of distinct three-word phrases in the two bodies: 1.00 is identical wording, and the threshold for counting a pair at all is 0.70. Candidates are generated by simhash LSH (4 x 16-bit bands, exact Hamming <= 3) verified against the bodies with Jaccard over the SET of distinct 3-word shingles. Published first counts which side of each matching pair carries the earlier timestamp — in this corpus, which is the limitation directly below.
What this cannot establish
MEASURED, DOMINANT ERROR SOURCE: a post ingested before 2026-08-06 may have carried a forward header that was not recorded. A 45-pair hand-check against live t.me pages found 14 (31%) where the live page shows a forward header naming the other channel and the database has none, plus 4 more (9%) naming a third party. The text match itself was wrong 0 times out of 45. Read attribution_capture.items_in_trusted_window before treating the unattributed count as a claim.
Telegram lets a channel forward a post with a header naming the source, and we only began reliably recording that header on 2026-08-06. 12 of the 12 matches recorded here fall after that date and carried no header when we read them. The rest predate reliable capture and are not evidence either way.
“Published first” means first in this corpus. We hold 38 comparable posts for this entry, running 18 July 2026 to 11 November 2026. A channel we have read one page deep will look younger than a neighbour we have read in full, and the order would flip with no change in the underlying facts.
The detector’s own notes on this observation, as it recorded them. Names in this_style are fields of the underlying evidence record, which the plain-English paragraphs above read out for this entry.
Verbatim republication has three causes and the text separates only two: a clone/mirror, unattributed copy-paste, or BOTH channels copying a common third source that neither attributes. The spread filter (content held by at most 8 channels) reduces the third and does not remove it.
'Earliest' means earliest IN THIS CORPUS. A channel ingested one page deep will look younger than a neighbour ingested in full; corpus_coverage above is there to be checked before the direction is believed.
shared_verified_est extrapolates the sampled pass rate over the full narrow match count; sampled/passed are the numbers actually measured.
Absence of a forward header is not proof of intent: Telegram lets a channel disable forward attribution, and a credit written in the body is not parsed as attribution here (mention_edge_either_way above is the closest available signal).
Of the group of 2 channels, the one whose matching posts we hold earliest is @chinesespb. That is a statement about our reading window, not a claim of authorship.
Recorded under the key clone_copy, last confirmed 12 November 2026. An observation that a later pass no longer finds is cleared, and a cleared observation is removed from this page rather than being shown struck through — we do not keep publishing a claim we have withdrawn. Dispute an observation.
Channels linked by matching posts
This channel is in a group of 2 registered channels linked by matching posts. Links are found by comparing text fingerprints across every channel on the register.
Which channel, if either, published first is deliberately not shown in this list. “First” could only mean first in our own crawl, which depends on how deep we happened to reach into each channel’s history, not on when the content was actually first posted. Our one hand-check read 45 of the highest-confidence flagged pairs against the live Telegram pages. In 18 of them the live page showed a “Forwarded from” credit that our database had no record of, so reading that pair as an unattributed copy was wrong; the check did not measure who published first. This list is ordered by subscriber count, the same as every other listing on this site, never by which channel we think came first. Near-verbatim matching has several ordinary explanations besides copying — a channel mirroring itself, an unattributed repost, or two channels independently repeating the same wire story — and this measurement cannot tell those apart. How this is measured.
27 measurements spanning 96 days, net +299. Dots are measurements; the straight line between them is drawn to join them, not to claim we know the path taken in between — snapshots are recorded only when a count changes, so gaps mean “no change observed”, never “interpolated”. The vertical axis spans 9,476–9,877 and does not start at zero.
Measurement log — every subscribers count we have recorded, most recent 20 of 27
Measured (UTC)
Subscribers
Change
10 Nov 2026, 16:41
9,824
-3
7 Nov 2026, 10:30
9,827
-2
4 Nov 2026, 10:57
9,829
+1
1 Nov 2026, 07:06
9,828
-3
29 Oct 2026, 16:46
9,831
+5
26 Oct 2026, 13:45
9,826
+3
23 Oct 2026, 16:27
9,823
-4
20 Oct 2026, 22:06
9,827
+3
17 Oct 2026, 21:49
9,824
+18
14 Oct 2026, 13:46
9,806
+16
11 Oct 2026, 12:57
9,790
+34
4 Oct 2026, 22:36
9,756
+61
25 Sept 2026, 20:57
9,695
+78
17 Sept 2026, 04:20
9,617
+3
13 Sept 2026, 11:38
9,614
+6
9 Sept 2026, 06:20
9,608
+13
3 Sept 2026, 17:17
9,595
+2
31 Aug 2026, 04:28
9,593
+6
27 Aug 2026, 23:07
9,587
+48
25 Aug 2026, 03:59
9,539
first reading
Engagement
40 posts held, back to 18 July 2026 — the reader has not yet reached the start of this channel’s public history, so older posts may sit further back, unread. Read across 53 pages of Telegram’s post history, 20 posts per page.
ERR · 30 days
18.3%
avg views ÷ 9,824 subscribers
Avg views / post
1,800
13 posts measured
Reaction rate
2.98%
reactions ÷ views · ER floor
Posts in window
13
of 40 held
ERR is average views per post over the last 30 days divided by subscribers, the definition TGStat uses, so this figure is comparable with the one you will see elsewhere. It falls structurally as a channel grows: a high ERR on a small channel and a low one on a large channel describe reach mathematics, not quality. We publish the figure and the sample it came from and pass no verdict on it.
ER is defined industry-wide as (forwards + reactions + comments) ÷ views — note the denominator is views, not subscribers. Telegram’s public web preview carries views and reactions but not forward or comment counts, so the reaction rate above is the reactions term only and is therefore a floor: the true ER for this channel is higher by an amount we have not measured and will not estimate.
What these figures were computed from
Window
Rolling 30 days · latest post in window 11 November 2026
Posts held
40 (18 July 2026 – 11 November 2026)
Views total
23,375
Reactions total
696
Forwards / comments
not exposed by the public surface — not measured, not estimated
Readings taken
12 Nov 2026, 11:01 UTC
Views are a single reading per post, taken at the time above. A post published in the last day or two is still accumulating views, which pulls the 30-day average down slightly. That is a property of the standard definition rather than a fault in it, so we keep the definition rather than “correcting” the number into something nobody can reproduce.
Precision. Telegram publishes view counts on its public widget in short form — 8.12K, 3.7M — so any reading at or above 1,000 reaches us rounded to three significant figures, and only counts below 1,000 are exact. Averages and rates derived from them are shown to the same precision rather than to the unit: a figure like 3,701,250 would assert digits nobody measured.
Reaction counts are published per emoji and rounded the same way, so a total below 1,000 is exact and a larger one is a sum that may carry a rounded component from each emoji above 1,000. Because it is a sum, it does not look rounded — read a large reaction total as three significant figures per contributing emoji rather than as the figure it prints.
What this channel posts
Photos
≈1,780
Videos
≈134
Links
≈279
Lifetime counters from Telegram’s own channel header, read 12 November 2026 — not the date at the top of this page, which is when the subscriber count was last read. A count marked ≈ was rounded by Telegram before we ever saw it — t.me prints these counters in full below 1,000 and to three significant figures above, so ≈142,000 means somewhere between 141,500 and 142,499.
Video runtime
1m 47s
Average length
36s
Measured directly from 3 videos with a duration reading, out of the posts we hold for this channel — not this channel’s whole posting history, only the sample this register has actually read. An exact reading to the second, taken from the post itself rather than from Telegram’s own rounded chrome, so it carries no ≈ mark.
Reaction mix
2,296 reactions across 39 posts, in 16 distinct kinds. The most used accounts for 51.4% of them.
Every reaction kind recorded on the sample, most used first
Reaction
Count
Share
Share, drawn
❤
1,180
51.4%
🔥
319
13.9%
❤🔥
263
11.5%
😁
225
9.80%
😱
169
7.36%
👍
37
1.61%
🎉
34
1.48%
🍾
17
0.74%
👏
12
0.523%
💯
12
0.523%
🤩
8
0.348%
🤓
7
0.305%
⚡
6
0.261%
😍
3
0.131%
🙏
3
0.131%
🏆
1
0.044%
No sentiment is inferred, and none should be read in. This table is ordered by count and by nothing else. Emoji do not carry stable meaning across languages or communities — 🙏 is thanks in one channel and mourning in another — so we publish which ones were pressed and how often, and pass no judgement on what an audience meant by them.
Precision. Telegram publishes reaction counts per emoji and short-forms each one — 4.34K, 1.2M — so any single kind at or above 1,000 reaches us at three significant figures, and only counts below 1,000 are exact. The shares above are ratios of those figures and carry the same error. This is also why the total here can differ slightly from a reaction total printed elsewhere on the page: both are sums of the same rounded parts, taken over samples with different edges.
Coverage. Reactions were read on 39 of the 40 sampled posts in this sample. Summed by Telegram’s own count on each post — not by adding up the per-emoji breakdown above — those same posts carry 2,296 reactions in total: the kind of figure the paragraph above means by “a reaction total printed elsewhere on the page”.
Measured over the 40 most recent posts we hold, published 18 July 2026 to 11 November 2026, using the newest reading held for each. Telegram Stars are excluded: they are a payment, not a reaction, and they have their own section.
Recent posts
Telegram’s own ‘edited’ marker: 2 of 13 posts held from the last 30 days (15.4%) carried it when this register last read them. The marker says a post was changed after publishing, not what it said before — this register holds the earlier wording only where an edit fell between two of its own reads (see the edit ledger and how it is measured).
Огромная! Безумная! Неистовая распродажа! С 9 по 15 ноября!
Каждый год мы ждём 11.11, потому что это особенное время, когда можно окунуться в гору моих книжных клубов, интенсивов по грамматике, синонимам, лексике, и даже в эротическую китайскую литературу...и набрать всякого с большими скидками.
Несколько лет уже я веду китайский книжный клуб. За это время у меня накопилось...аж 40+ лекций (с книгами, конспектами и…
Наверное, даже не китаисты уже в курсе, что такое хого. Но слышали ли вы про 打边炉? Так хого называют в кантонских регионах 粤语地区 - в Гуанчжоу, Гонконге и тд, и расшифровывается название ну очень просто.
打 здесь - то же самое, что 涮, то есть варить в кипятке, 边 раньше было 甂 - котелок с невысокими краями, ну а 炉 - жаровня.
Все собирались вокруг жаровни, на ней варили разные вкусные штуки - вот отсюда и название.
К чем…
Завтра в 13:00 на радио Комсомольская правда 92 FM специальный эфир в честь дня рождения Достоевского - про первый перевод "Белых ночей", выполненный носителем русского на китайский (и ещё про всякое)
Открылось новое место с китайской кухней, и этого открытия я ждала ДАВНО, потому что..оно связано с 春饼.
春饼 - в народе спринг-ролл. Мы знакомы с его вьетнамской версией, когда в рисовую бумагу заворачивают мясо и овощи, а потом обжаривают до хруста. Помню, как я была удивлена когда-то, когда оказалось, что конкретно таких спринг-роллов в китайской кухне нет. Правда, есть другие, которые называются так же.
Китайский …
Вчера издательство сделало первый анонс "Белых ночей" Ф.М.Достоевского в моем переводе. Есть уже пилотный экземпляр, есть обложка, фото мерча, но пока нельзя ничего показывать. Очень жду, когда же наконец-то смогу поделиться.
Мы очень переживали, как китайский читатель воспримет такое новшество, ведь раньше русские переводчики никогда не переводили самостоятельно русскую классику на китайский. Но у меня с вечера под…
Как не умереть первым, попав в китайский фильм ужасов?
Возможно, вы когда-то слышали такой чэнъюй - 点睛之笔. Значит он "финальный штрих, завершающая деталь", а дословно - взмах кисти, рисующий зрачки. Вот только...если вы попали в китайский ужастик, делать этот взмах ни в коем случае нельзя.
Представьте - вы оказались в уютной китайской деревеньке. Старые парные надписи на воротах, не менявшиеся уже много лет, узкие п…
Ну что, друзья, я обещала страшный подарочек на Хэллоуин - вот он!
Когда вырастаешь - понимаешь, что нет ничего страшнее взрослой жизни. Зомби или школьные чаты? Вампиры или работа с людьми без выходных? Людоеды или ипотека под 20%? Как будто очевидно, что страшнее всегда второе...
Я подготовила серию уроков для самых взрослых китаистов, и два выкладываю в открытый доступ для вас. В них вы узнаете, почему Мали вышл…
В этот страааашный день хочу всем вам напомнить, что в Китае самыми жуткими и злобными среди гуев считаются те, кто умер от голода, 饿鬼 - 厉鬼.
Сытая нечисть - добрая нечисть. Старайтесь не умирать голодными, ну а голодному гую посоветуйте хорошую чифаньку с этого канала.
В сторис спросила сегодня, можно ли использовать 很 с глаголом, например, сказать 很看老师. Ииии многие ответили, что нельзя (таких большинство).
А вот и можно, представляете.
В этом вся суть грамматики китайского, сперва говорят, что все просто и логично, достаточно следовать правилам. А потом все правила идут по одному месту (впрочем, и в жизни тоже так, да?...)
Обычно мы и правда не можем сказать 很看,很去,很跑. Ведь нет с…
С кем в Китае точно не стоит связываться? Кто-то скажет - с мафией 黑社会, но прошаренные люди знают ответ - лучше не переходить дорожку представителям народности мяо 苗. Даже сами китайцы между собой шутят на эту тему.
И все из-за того, что мяосцы умеют насылать проклятие 下蛊. Но это не просто поплевать-попроклинать. Нет, речь о кое-чем более зловещем.
Взгляните на иероглиф 蛊 - насекомое над кровью. Вот какое описание …
Китай выступит в роли миротворца на трёхсторонней встрече с Россией и США, заявила преподаватель НИУ ВШЭ Санкт-Петербург Татьяна Карпова
Эксперт подчеркнула — на саммите не будет обсуждаться раздел мира:
"Для Китая это абсолютный нонсенс, их лидер не позволит никому таких заявлений сделать и будет против. У Поднебесной ведь в принципе позиция единого человеческого сообщества с единой судьбой".
✅ Полный эфир смотри…
Сходила в понедельник на эфир на радио Sputnik. Основной повод - инициатива гос.думы по введению в школьный курс литературы произведений китайских авторов. Но в связи с недавним визитом премьера Госсовета Ли Цяна в Санкт-Петербург и с готовящимся саммитом АТЭС заодно ответила на вопросы, связанные с предположительной встречей лидеров США, Китая и РФ в Шэньчжэне.
Вот зачем мы так усердно учили про 人类命运共同体, да...
❤14🔥10👍2
Showing the 12 most recent of 40 posts we hold for @chinesemsk. View and reaction counts are the latest single reading for each post, not a live figure, and a recent post is still accumulating both. A view count marked ≈ was rounded by Telegram before we ever saw it — t.me prints views in full below 1,000 and to three significant figures above, so ≈1,200,000 means somewhere between 1,150,000 and 1,249,999. Unmarked counts are exact. Text is reproduced from the public post preview and truncated for length.
Posts recorded as deleted after publishing
We recorded 1 post on @chinesemsk as deleted — posts this register held that were missing from the channel’s public page on two separate reads, taken from different network addresses at least an hour apart.
A deletion is not wrongdoing. This register can see that a post it held is no longer on the channel’s public page, and when — not why. Expired ad placements, reposts, rotating links and corrections all look the same. This is a count of recorded detections, not an exact total: it misses deletions we could not see, because only a post we held and later re-read inside the page can be seen to go, and it may include a small number of wrong records. How this is measured.
First seen missing
24 August 2026
Most recent seen missing
24 August 2026
Median time before seen missing
8 days
Seen missing in the last 30 days
0
Forward network
Republishes
Channels on the register whose posts this channel has forwarded.
Built only from forwarded posts we have actually read, on both sides. Coverage is early and deliberately incomplete: a missing link means we have not read the post that would prove it, never that the relationship does not exist. Counts are distinct forwarded posts observed, so they only ever go up as we read more.
Mentions
Named by 4 registered channels — every channel on the register whose own posts have named this one, by its current username or any other username it currently holds, merged from two separately captured readings of the same fact so a namer caught by only one of them is not missed and a namer both caught is not counted twice. A username this channel has since dropped is not matched — that handle may belong to someone else now, and crediting today’s namer to yesterday’s owner would misattribute it.
Named by
Channels on the register whose posts name this channel's handle.
A mention is a weaker signal than a forward and is counted separately for that reason — naming a channel is not republishing it, and a handle in a post body is easy to place deliberately. The post counts beside each row below are distinct posts in which the handle appeared, from posts we have read on both sides — the “Named by N registered channels” figure above is a different count, of distinct NAMING CHANNELS rather than posts, and is not the sum of the rows under it.
Appears in Telegram’s recommendations for other channels
The reverse of the list above, and a different kind of signal. This does not require this channel to have ever been asked about directly — each row below is a channel we DID ask Telegram about, whose Telegram-generated list happened to include this one. A channel can appear here with an empty list above it, because being named by someone else’s query is independent of having been queried itself.
⛩ ЗА КИТАЙСКОЙ СТЕНОЙ @ya_diya · 21,354 Telegram ranks this channel #4 of 95 here — alongside 94 others — read 23 September 2026
Китай Наизнанку 🇨🇳 Алексей Райсих @chinabackdoor · 50,357 Telegram ranks this channel #7 of 93 here — alongside 92 others — read 25 August 2026
Китай. 80-е и не только @china80s · 19,764 Telegram ranks this channel #10 of 99 here — alongside 98 others — read 30 September 2026
Юань да Марья @Yuan_da_Marya · 54,393 Telegram ranks this channel #10 of 91 here — alongside 90 others — read 23 August 2026
Китайская Панорама @chinesepanorama · 18,879 Telegram ranks this channel #22 of 97 here — alongside 96 others — read 4 October 2026
Байки лаовая®️. Китай. Новости @cn_laowai · 20,569 Telegram ranks this channel #33 of 95 here — alongside 94 others — read 27 September 2026
FoodKor @foodkorchannel · 24,604 Telegram ranks this channel #35 of 77 here — alongside 76 others — read 15 September 2026
Китайский плакат @chinaposter · 21,791 Telegram ranks this channel #36 of 96 here — alongside 95 others — read 22 September 2026
Китайский язык с китиками @kittychinaa · 28,257 Telegram ranks this channel #66 of 93 here — alongside 92 others — read 9 September 2026
Китайский язык и культура | Shanshan Laoshi @Shanshan_Laoshi_Chinese · 18,691 Telegram ranks this channel #75 of 96 here — alongside 95 others — read 1 October 2026
Китайский язык @chinese_lingvistika_slovar · 57,039 Telegram ranks this channel #81 of 90 here — alongside 89 others — read 23 August 2026
This channel appears in 11 seed channels' Telegram-generated recommendation lists in total. Each is Telegram’s list for THAT channel, not this one — see how this is measured.
Cite this entry
A live page changes as we take new readings, so a citation should name the measurement it is based on, not just the URL. The line below cites the subscriber count as measured 10 November 2026 — this
entry's latest reading, not the date you are reading this.
“Китайская Москва” (@chinesemsk), 9,824 subscribers as measured 10 November 2026. Telegram Register, tgregister.com/channel/chinesemsk.
Full measurement history, CC BY 4.0. Every reading this register holds for this entry, not just the latest one, as a dated, downloadable record: CSV · JSON. Free to use with attribution to tgregister.com. Each file carries its own generation timestamp, which is the figure to cite for exactly when the data was retrieved.